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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:50 pm

Nakuha ko na din ang tamang side hop with pa-side hehe

Kaya lang side distance lang nakuha ko kasi pa akyat sa curb lang. Wala pa 5 minutes nakuha ko na, kasi pinakiramdaman ko sa apak o sa paa (forward).

Duon ko ni-pivot ang buong bike at lumundag naman* may nalalaman pa ako to rear hehe. Ngayon ko lang inaral talaga hehehe. Tomorrow pag tutuunan ko ng oras. Pero from 2 wheel palang .. kakabisaduhin ko muna mabutete bago mag rear to rear.


* Sa mga beginners: Huwag mo isiping sumisipa ka kundi dun sa pedal ang forward foot umaapak para tumaas ang body mo parang umaapak ka sa upuan para i launch ang katawan pataas. gets?

Papano kamo na pepedal kick? Kapag tinukudan mo yung pedal yung buong bike ang umiikot o nag pipivot so kung stationary sa space ang cranks, ang frame naman ay gumagalaw so effectively pedal kick sya.

Sabi kasi ni Joolz bakit steady lang ang paa ni Ian sa side hop so pinoint out ko yung frame. Gets nyo? Kunwari yung crank at frame ang parts ng gunting tapos isa lang ang gumalaw naka putol pa din. Kuha nyo?


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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:54 pm

Nice bro...galing mo...

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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:58 pm

Pre matanda na ako sa trials haha slow ako. inedit ko may tips ako nilagay baka makatulong.
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:27 pm

hehhe slow na ako...hindi ko maintindihan pero parang gets ko.... rabbit

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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:45 pm

Ganito kuha ka ng isang solid na na stool apakan mo push off ka pa kaliwa o pakanan using your forwad foot ganun ang feeling sa paa.

Basta pag ride natin bro. Sa sunday session tayo dito sa bahay gusto mo? Di ako makaalis kasi wala kasama nga bata sa sunday wala wife ko.
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:58 pm

sige bro...may paleta ka ba jan? itry ko

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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:36 pm

nikkocholo wrote:
sige bro...may paleta ka ba jan? itry ko

Oo meron plus dalawin natin ang spots ko hehe
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:42 pm

sige bro...sana kaya kong tirahin...need to gain experience cheers

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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:14 am

mga bro, ito slow motion sidehop by the master para mas ma analize natin kung pano ung magic Question

http://www.norco.com/downloads/videos/index.php?id=106
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:53 am

Nakita ko na yan hehe sayang hindi masave. Pwede kaya icapture?
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:28 am

pat, ang pakiramdam ba ng sidehop na tama eh parang pedal kick sabay scoop ng rearwheel? kaya ko eto pag stationary(hindi kumakaliwa o kumakanan) pero pag naglelean na ako sa side eh talagang maliit lang yung height.

gagawin kong penitensya ang matutong magsidehop... hahaha.
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:33 am

Ewan ko bro ha, di ko pa kasi master ang sidehop tulad ng Davao guys at ni Ian pero:

Kung pedal kick sabay scoop/tuck dati ko pa nagagawa yun pero it doesn't feel right = mali.

Kung papanoorin mo yung video link na nilagay ni Apol yung sa Norco, sidehop ni RL over a bar, makikita mo na it appears hindi sumisipa si RL. Bale yung nakuha ko kahapon feel ko yun ang tama at mali ang ginagawa ko eversince.

Ang term namin ni Joolz dyan ay butas ang pedals, ibig sabihin na pepedal kick mo ng todo pero alang resulta like height or distance. (Another term for the dictionary). Kung tama ang ginagawa mo dapat di "butas" ang pag pedal kick mo instead yung pedals ay steady at yung buong frame ang nag move. Pedals relative to the ground ay hindi gumalaw pero may pedal kick na nangyari. Yun ang kailangan mo madiscover.

Ganito ang feeling pre para kang umaapak sa isang stool para mag push off to the side pa kaliwa o pa kanan using your forward foot to the opposite side. Actually nag light bulb kasi wala ako effort nag sidehop to rear ako. Parang amazed ako na nagawa ko yung tama at iba pala sya sa ginagawa ko.

At kung nag push off ka mula sa isang stool solid ang feeling sa paa di ba.

Tingin ko maganda yung payo ko kasi retarded ang sidehop ko dati pa at nakuha ko lang ngayon lang after so long at alam ko ang pinagkaiba hehe
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:12 pm

hehehe.... sana makuha ko din yung ganung feeling. teka, may isa pa akong tanong... kelangan ba naka brake ka habang nagki-kick o naka release ang brakes pero nde talaga gumagalaw yung wheel?

nde pala ako nakapagpractice today. nag long xc ride kame ng erpats at tatlo pang friends to samar. hehehe, penitensya ride from 2pm to 8pm. pero one thing's for sure, ang laki ng natulong ng trials saken sa endurance at control. mas naa-appreciate mo yung buong bike pag confident ka sa handling skills mo.
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:12 am

@Raimun dapat ma release mo ang brakes kung mag pedalkick ka hehe kundi yung buong bike ang pipihit pababa.

Tama ka sa handling, actually nag umpisa ako sa trials bilang pangdagdag sa handling skills kaya lang di ko na initigil.

Nag basabasa ako sa internet, ang ideal sidehop pala yung supertuck kasi new school hehe

Ito ay kung saan nilulundag sa obsatcle at ipinapatong pa side ang bike ng sabay ang gulong. So ito na ang pag coconcentrate-an ko. Amature talaga ang sidehop ko pero mag pupursige ako within this month atleast ma sidehop ko yung na lulurch ko paharap atleast.
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:26 pm

Blog ko lang ...

...spent almost 2 hours practicing concentrating on the side hop + tuck (2 wheels to 2 wheels). Everyday I figure out a part of the entire move and improve on it the next time.

Today I improved on planting 2 wheels at the same time (the tuck) medyo sablay sablay ang timing nauuna ang rear ng konti minsan and figured out somehow how to pull harder. Both pathetically high curb level palang. Iniiwasan ko mag 2 wheels to rear kasi priority ko yung 2 wheels to 2 wheels + tuck.

Side distance ko naging consisitent na, yung lundag ay medyo na figure out ko na how to pull harder. Hopefully tomorrow mahatak ko ng mas mataas atleast mga one foot. Eventually I hope kasing taas ng lurch ko manlang. I'm still working out my landings medyo rough pa kasi.

Naisip ko dapat dati ko pa inaral ito kasi parnag di balanse ang skills ko. Hopefully by the end of the month natutunan ko yung rear to 2 wheels + tuck. Hindi ko na aaralin ang sidehop to front kasi yun ang nilalampasan na ng mga big moves. Tingnan nyo yung pinost ko sa super tuck thread eto ang LINK.

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Ok eto seryoso na...

Nakabasa ako sa forums ng usapan ni AliC at ni Lance T

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they are odd indeed.

They need a slighty different type of preload. With a normal sidehop, I kinda preload my weight bawckwards and down, this moves my momentum upwards and forwards when doing the actual sidehop which ends up landing front wheel first then pivoting the back up.

With a tuck sidehop I preload more down and less back, this puts my momentum more vertically and as the bike is comming up its almost like I am just placing the bike to the side of me, it almost feels like I am trying to sit on my chainstay. doing this makes me land both wheels together and tucked to the side.

The tucking method I feel gets better results, its much more "floaty" than a pivot method and I seem to get high with them too.

Its taken me aaaages to get them, it was strange though, I couldnt do them at all no matter how hard I tried. Then one day by magic I did one out of the blue and it kinda clicked.

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It's funny you should mention that you just got the hang of the 2 wheel tuck sidehop. I noticed that in the natural video where you were riding the MBK you were still landing front wheel first. Then all of a sudden I could see you had transitioned. Nice work. I think riding at Koxx days must have helped.

I think you need to see it done. It's very hard if you learned to sidehop from 2 wheels to then get the tuck from backwheel.

Your description about preloading down instead of back was good advice. I am starting to figure that out as well, but it is taking me way too long.

Thanks for the tip.


@Joelou

Sabay mo ba ipnapatong ang bike ano? Super tuck na ginagawa mo o squat (front to rear)?
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:54 am

Continuation ng blog ko hehe ang aking penitensya sa pagaaral ng sidehop....

Nung lingo ay nag ride kami nina Je-ar brakeless at Benjo sa Palanan lang (Buendia PNR Station and nearby area). Kumuha ng vid si Benjo ng attempt ko mag sidehop hehe.

Ito ang link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0CAyrEDMcU

Kailangan ko nalang hatakin ang bars sa hips ko at hopefully maka side distance ng mas malayo na din. Dyan sa vid medyo anemic ang hatak ko. Siguro hesitance dahil sa forward-rear balance point( (Takot mag over sa likod, psychological).
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:03 pm

hehe.... Brad, galing nga e, smooth na.... cheers
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:33 pm

teynx brad mas maganda kung atleast tire height na at smooth hehe
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:38 pm

uy I need to see that in action..ehhehe

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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:59 pm

bro, galing. yan ang sidehop! tama ka din sa psychological mumu na mahuhulog ka kasi baka sobra sa sipa. hahaha. teka... baka balik sidehop praktis uli ako ah. salamat sa reference, pat.
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:11 pm

parang ang dali lang sa video. hehe. sa totoo kakatakot
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:34 pm

Kunsabagay ako natatakot ako mabarag ko down tube ko kasi hehe.
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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: side hops - how to   Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:14 pm

ah. nice! thanks benjo!

dapat pala naka lock brakes tapos release yung rear pag hop. then lock ulit.

hmmmmmmmnnnnn....
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