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PostSubject: what gears do you run?   Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:44 pm

guys i need your help regarding proper gearing... i currently use 22-19t... it used to work for me... the front wheel is much easier to pop-up... but...


i cant pull a long gap after doing a backhop...

i cant japslap/pedal-up anything higher that my wheel...

i just cant go higher.... i wanna go higher and somehow i think the gears are little too low?

your inputs are needed guys...

i remember jervy told me my gearing was too low...

please help me

thanks Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:23 pm

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i cant pull a long gap after doing a backhop...
Lower your front tire before doing a pedalkick, do it as low as you can do it. The lower the front end goes the longer you can gap provided you have kick at the perfect timing including your body position Joolz.

Joolz loose the gut so you can do a super-tuck hehe.
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:18 pm

I'll advice you next time joolz pag alam ko na hehehe

bTW I run 22t/19t as per Pat's advice at base sa mga nabasa ko sa ibang trials forum pero gusto ko ity yung 22t/18t
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:51 pm

Yeah the 22T/19T is from the trials gearing range based from what I read from TRA's gearing. He could tear some shit with low gearing. Plus RL di ba. Kay RL nabasa ko kasi based sa mixture ng Urban at Naturals yung gearing na yon.

You can actually use 22T/18T or anything higher (rider's preference). I actually learned pedal kicks with a 22T/20T combo since its the only avalable trials gearing in my casette and moved on with 22T/18T.

I actually improved my pedal up a whole feet when I moved on to 22T/18T. But it was quite gay when there are elements of naturals in the line. IE Sloping up to an up to a pedal up (on an incline etc). When I first met Martin (greaseart) I tried to pedal up a rock launching from a soil/grass surface it was too much for a 22T/18T gearing and torque was very lacking.

On the other hand when Michael from Gensan came he had 22T/16T gearing and he was tearing up some serious shit. Isang bagay na sinasabi ko kay Joolz nung nagusap kami sa phone ay si Mike Gensan ay less dependent sa kick puro lundag. Although results naman nya ay mataas na up, the technique is basically wrong based sa principles ng trials. Walang sipa ang sidehop nya puro weight shifting.

Balik tayo kay TRA, imagine mo yung massive jumping power plus high torque equals big moves pre.

Basta do what you have to do find your gearing di ba.
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:14 am

24/19 for trials. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:06 pm

24-19? bro nasubukan mo? hmmmm wla akong 24 chainring... ok ba yan bro?
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:31 pm

Joolz, marunong lang ako ng konting-konti pero, oo ok yung gearing na yun. Meron kasi 'kong 24T na chainring na tinanggal ko dun sa FR bike ko. Yung cassette ko kasi is 21-12 sa STP so the only way para makuha ko yung 2:1 ratio for park & dj is to use yung 24T sa harap & shift all the way down. Anyway, halos pareho sya ng 22-17 sa feeling. Personally, mas gusto ko sya kesa sa 22-18 na gamit ko dati. Kung wala kang 24T na chainring, try mong gumamit ng 17T sa likod. Sabi nga ni Patrick do what you have to do to find your own gearing preference.

Note: Siguro dahil sanay ako sa high gearing sa FR/DH kaya para sa 'kin magaang na sobra yung 22-17 or 24-19. Just a thought.
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:16 pm

ah ok thanks bro... kasi ako matagal narin panahon sa mababang gear... pinag bi bike commute ko nga everyday yun 22t ko eh kasi yun lang nakakabit saken hehehehe
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:56 am

para saken... kung parating magsisimula ako na naka trackstand bago gumawa ng move (i.e., side hop, pedal gap, etc.), gamit ko 22-20. pero pag umaandar ako naka 22-18 gearing ako. mejo nabibigatan pa ako ng konti sa 22-18 pag nakahinto eh. hehehe. sanayan lang. pero tama nga na mas mataas or mas malayo yung nagagawa mo pag 22-18.
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:07 pm

Basta tol advice lang maximize mo kung ano meron ka, sagarin mo pero at the same time improve mo din ang pagka match ng katawan mo sa gamit mo i.e. preference.

Mahirap talaga pumunta sa next level, mas mahirap kesa sa pag angat mo sa previous step. Ganon din sa next pa doon, focus ka parin sa tamang body motion. Remember as you progress you rely less on your drive train and more on leaping etc.

Huwag ka mawalan ng pag asa kung di ka nag iimprove. Focus lang, remember Patience-Persistence-Practice.

Remember naka sidehop si RL ng 120cm sa 27 lbs bike nya sa 22T/19T gearing, at naka gap sya ng malayo-layo sa Roam*, so hindi nonsense ang 22T/19T gearing.


* Yung last gap nya, 2 wheel to rear pa side.
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:06 am

Yep, tama si Pat. Nabasa ko sa site ni Hans Rey, kahit sya mababa din gearing nya pero hindi na-hi-hinder yung riding nya. Preference lang ang gearing pero ang improvement nakukuha lang after months & months of practice.
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:13 am

well thanks sa mga inputs mga brads nag decide ako mag stick muna sa current gearing ko kasi sinubukan ko kagabi 22-17 medyo chikitong chikito pa...


di bale practice nalang ng praktis siguro mag hahaba nalang ulit ako ng stem...
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:29 pm

Ano masasabi mo sa mas mababang gearing Joolz? hehehe
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:43 pm

18-22 on 165 cranks...

shet nakakabaliw ang explosion parang hindi ako naniniwala sa height na kayang abutin...

pero naabot, kaya naman pala abutin eh...

ngayon tuwing nagsisipilyo ako at hawak ko yung lababo namin, parang naimagine ko na nag jajapslap ako sa lababo na ganung height...


pat parang posible talaga yun formula sa ibang trials forum...

MAX JAPSLAP = (MAX BUNNYHOP + 80%)

nun nasubukan ko yun gearing na yan parang kaya talaga... nakakaaliw...
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:32 pm

Joolz its 18T-16T on 165mm, less speed and more torque than a 22T-19T on 170-175mm

Hindi lang gearing yun pare madaming bagay yun

1. Gearing
2. Weight
3. Geometry
- longer wheelbase
- rigid fork -> lower front
4. Hub actuation
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:06 pm

typo error 18-16 nga...

weight training ko yung cromo frame ko wehehehe...

para balang araw... hehehehe Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:27 pm

Joolz pagaanin natinang bike mo volunteer ako mag butas hehe:



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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:49 pm

Galing!!!! astig yan ah!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:41 pm

ewww so gross!!!

panu niya nagawa sa frame niya yan...

pucha pat kakatakot na yan baka mabali nalang bigla sakin yan hehehehe

mga brads wala naman pala akong problema sa gearing eh..

napagisip isip ko yun hub ko ang problema kung bakit "supot" yun japslap at kicks ko...

kelangan ko magpalit ng hubs...

haay ala pa budget...

wag kayo bumili ng JUJU pang trials, lusot yun sipa mo brads...
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:16 pm

hanep!!! ahyus yung frame! hehehe...
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:36 pm

Joolz mag lay away ka na kasi ng Ringle
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:08 am

patrick wrote:
Joolz pagaanin natinang bike mo volunteer ako mag butas hehe:




astig!! dami butas.. sa cromo frame lang ba pwede yan? parang bibigay agad..
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:02 pm

Kayang kaya ng cromo yan sir, sa aluminum although pwede gawin medyo analytical ka dapat kung saan konti ang stress sa frame kung saan bubutasin.
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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:49 pm

Parang baby armalite hehehe astig

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PostSubject: Re: what gears do you run?   Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:02 pm

hehe.... oonga!!!!
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