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PostSubject: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 10:01 am

Dok, laging dumudulas at lumalagutok itong kadena ko. Miski nung naka Fuji pa problema na. Sa ngayon naka 18-16 ang gearing ko, naka align naman lahat.

Tried to solve by:
-inadjust yung spacers nung hub para mas straight sa cranks
-tensioner alignment pati yung dropout alignment
-changed na the chain K8(yung makapal) to K7(manipis)

so far after ng mga toh, nag lessen ang slipping pero meron parin.

-lastly, sinubukan ko ichange yung gearing ko sa likod to 15T. NAWALA, yun nga lang bumigat ang sipa. Parang naka 22-18 ang feel. after 2 days, badtrip, na-loose thread yung hub. Syempre balik ako muna dun ulit sa 16T.

Sa inspection ni Ben, nakita nya na may konting marks na yung 16T of slippage. Baka daw dahil sa mga past chain slips na miski ngayon na aligned na ay medyo dudulas narin. Pero, nung tinignan ko sobrang liit lang naman ng mga scratches.


Dilemna:
-kailangan ko na ba magpalit ng 16T ko? (patay wala yata nito dito)
-or di kaya sa klase ng tensioner, baka kailangan ng 2 pivot type?
-or parang yung tensioner mo Pat na imbes na palabas yung tulak, gawing paloob para mas maraming teeth ang nakakapit?
-or yung halflink type chain para mas konti yung slack nung chain at para mas sakal yung tensioner?

Gusto ko itry lahat ng options para lang matanggal yung sakit. Yun nga lang dok sobrang sa-id na sa budget. In 2 months pa siguro ako makakarecover from my expenses.

Alam ko kailangan ko narin baguhin yung pag pedal ko, masyadong harsh sa unang padyak. Medyo nahahadlangan lang yung pag practice ko ng wheelie drops. Nakakatakot.
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 11:37 am

na try mo na ba da bomb tensioner yung may 2 roller? yun ang ganit ko, and i can still shift gear. 18t for play & 14t for padyakan. no slippin' of chain kahit hindi allign ang gears. at bukod sa lahat mura. heheh.. yun nga lng bumabali ng drop out pag sumabot ang tensioner.
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 1:16 pm

@kamot3

yan ang d best tensioner. kaso meron pa ba mabibili nyan?

@meck

dalhin mo sa bahay. tignan ko. baka mali lang kabit mo sa tensioner.

yan din naging problema ko nung nag ss ako e.

ang ginawa ko, kabit ko ang tensioner without the chain yet. fully tensioned to the left. para pag kabit ng chain, lumalaban sya ng husto. para rin makabit ang chain habang naka tension ang tensioner, gumamit ako ng bent rayos, hooked on the both sides ng chain para di hirap habang kinakabit ang lock.

kung di mo mapicture tong explanation ko, dalaw ka lang sa haus.

tapos laro-laro konte. hehehe...
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 2:58 pm

meron pa man, yung bike shop malapit samin may binibenta pang ganyan.

na try ko na rin gawing single roller tong tensioner na to (bawas bigat ba.). kaso sablay, nahuhulog ang kadina.

btw: na bali n ang drop out ko pero functioning pa rin ang tensioner.
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 3:07 pm

maganda yan! magkano fafa??? gusto ko rin kasi yan e. pero kung isa nalang, para nalang kay meck. di ko pa naman gagamitin agad.Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 3:48 pm

600 ata. pwede pa tawaran. hehe..tanong ko pag napadaan kami.
nga pla baka may alam kyong stem na mga 80 - 90mm na may 20 - 30deg raise. na less than 500 - 1000php na 4 bolt ang kabitan ng handle bar. =)
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 5:51 pm

nung nag hahanap tayo ng saddle nakita ko yan sa moonwalk. 1100 ang price nung tensioner!! pucha ang mahal..

sang LBS yang sinasabi mo?
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 6:42 pm

yung sa moonwalk. 600 kuha ko sa tensioner ko. d ko lang maalala kung dun ko nga na bili.
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 7:01 pm

ganun din problema ko, kahit okey naman ang chainline. kaya rin siguro naputol chain ko.
pro ang iniisip kong problema, di pa kasi yun ss cog talaga, binaklas lang n 9speed,
diba mas mababa mga ngipin nun at mas manipis ang thickness, tama ba?

meck anong gamit mong cog?
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 7:10 pm

di rin siguro, malamang mali ako Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 7:21 pm

david - yung gamit ko ng 20t galing sa 8speed na cog. ok naman.
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 7:33 pm

hehe mali nga si davidoff Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 8:22 pm

davidoff wrote:
ganun din problema ko, kahit okey naman ang chainline. kaya rin siguro naputol chain ko.
pro ang iniisip kong problema, di pa kasi yun ss cog talaga, binaklas lang n 9speed,
diba mas mababa mga ngipin nun at mas manipis ang thickness, tama ba?

meck anong gamit mong cog?

neon threaded fix cog dre.
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 9:06 pm

meck

baka maliang set up ng tensioner
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 10:46 pm

sa akin din me pumuputok. pero sa tingin ko yung freehub assembly na ang me problema sa'kin. since nabili ko yun di pa nabuksan, nailusong ko pa ng madaming sa tubig yun "dati".
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 10:54 pm

zteg43 wrote:
meck

baka maliang set up ng tensioner

So far wala namang imik tungkol sa tensioner si Ben nung nakita nya.
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 11:02 pm

@ewik, nice bro. street riding sa venice....hehehe peace.

OT: bakit binubuksan, may inaupgrade ba sa loob?
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 11:45 pm

mexophilia wrote:
zteg43 wrote:
meck

baka maliang set up ng tensioner

So far wala namang imik tungkol sa tensioner si Ben nung nakita nya.

hehe. ikaw? ganun din kasi sya sa tensioner ko noon e. ako nalang ang kumalikot.yun, nakuha ko rin. hehe.

@davidoff

pagnalulusong sa tubig, dapat overhaul. para di magkalawang ang loob. regrease narin.
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 11:51 pm

Push up
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Tue May 06, 2008 11:52 pm

patrick wrote:
Push up

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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Wed May 07, 2008 12:48 am

Palitan ng push up
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Wed May 07, 2008 10:36 pm

mexophilia wrote:
Dok, laging dumudulas at lumalagutok itong kadena ko. Miski nung naka Fuji pa problema na. Sa ngayon naka 18-16 ang gearing ko, naka align naman lahat.

Tried to solve by:
-inadjust yung spacers nung hub para mas straight sa cranks
-tensioner alignment pati yung dropout alignment
-changed na the chain K8(yung makapal) to K7(manipis)

so far after ng mga toh, nag lessen ang slipping pero meron parin.

-lastly, sinubukan ko ichange yung gearing ko sa likod to 15T. NAWALA, yun nga lang bumigat ang sipa. Parang naka 22-18 ang feel. after 2 days, badtrip, na-loose thread yung hub. Syempre balik ako muna dun ulit sa 16T.

Sa inspection ni Ben, nakita nya na may konting marks na yung 16T of slippage. Baka daw dahil sa mga past chain slips na miski ngayon na aligned na ay medyo dudulas narin. Pero, nung tinignan ko sobrang liit lang naman ng mga scratches.


Dilemna:
-kailangan ko na ba magpalit ng 16T ko? (patay wala yata nito dito)
-or di kaya sa klase ng tensioner, baka kailangan ng 2 pivot type?
-or parang yung tensioner mo Pat na imbes na palabas yung tulak, gawing paloob para mas maraming teeth ang nakakapit?
-or yung halflink type chain para mas konti yung slack nung chain at para mas sakal yung tensioner?

Gusto ko itry lahat ng options para lang matanggal yung sakit. Yun nga lang dok sobrang sa-id na sa budget. In 2 months pa siguro ako makakarecover from my expenses.

Alam ko kailangan ko narin baguhin yung pag pedal ko, masyadong harsh sa unang padyak. Medyo nahahadlangan lang yung pag practice ko ng wheelie drops. Nakakatakot.


bro base sa sinabi mo kahit nakadiretso na ang chainline lumalagutok parin?

baka hindi sa setup ang problema, nasa rider pa... kasi naalala ko noon nagsisimula kami malakas kami makaputol ng chain ni patrick noon as in sobrang iksi na sa kakaputol nun nasirang chain, madalas din mag slip ang chain kahit diretso ang chainline. pero sa katagalan naman nawala na ang mga ganitong eksena sa buhay namin nun na dial na yung pedal kicks, siguro yun timing ng hagod ng mga sipa mo kelangan practice mo kahit mga zaptap lang s bangketa...

at mahusay yun sinabi ni pat sa "push up" kasi mas madaming chain ang nakayakap sa cog sa ganitong setup...


yun ay base lang sa experience ko bro sana nakatulong kahit konti... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Thu May 08, 2008 12:20 am

Parang tama ang sabi ni joolz...
kelangan lang talaga na swabe ang pag pedal...
kasi diba ganyan din ako nung una, ngayon sobra bihira na magskip...
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Thu May 08, 2008 12:28 am

Eto gayahin mu... hehe...

akin..


kay tzard..
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PostSubject: Re: Chain Slipping   Thu May 08, 2008 12:32 am

Nakaka bungi nga si Meck ng cogs di ba, mukhang ngayon nadale mo na cog mo hehe.
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