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PostSubject: Which bike to get?   Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:26 pm

Hello mga riders! I'm very new to this sport and I need a little advice on which trial bike to get. I've heard good things about the Giant STP. Meron ba nun dito? Any suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:40 pm

Meron sir.. sa cartimar makakakita ka. sa quiapo meron din.
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:41 pm

Yes meron dito nun. Madami naka STP dito.

I've heard good things about it pero obligado ka gumamit either suspension fork or suspension corrected rigid fork.

For your reference ito ang review at masasabi ng mga taga 43bikes:
http://43-bikes.the-up.com/bike-porn-f5/stp-t455-120.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:41 pm

Pre yung stp sa Cartimar specifically sa Paulinas ay older model at mas mahaba ang chainstays.

Tanong ka kay Randal ng 43Bikes nagbebenta sya nun (may bikeshop sya). Yung sa kanya 2008. Mas maiksi na ang chainstays. DStreet ang user name nya dito.
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:31 pm

Thank you po sa mga replies. Patrick should i get the whole bike or just the frame tapos piliin ko na lng mga piyesa? Mabuhay ang pinoy trials!
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:53 am

biketayo wrote:
Thank you po sa mga replies. Patrick should i get the whole bike or just the frame tapos piliin ko na lng mga piyesa? Mabuhay ang pinoy trials!

sir kunin mo ung frame lang kung may option ka na frame lang, para ikaw pipili ng pyesa mo na talagang gusto mo, kung kukunin mo ung whole bike you will end up changing the parts and mas magastos un. ok pre good luck on your bike pre and post your pics as soon as buo na Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:47 am

i agree with apol. pero kung meron madami kang extrang money... you can also get the whole bike tapos bili ka ng parts. yung napalitan mo gawin mong reserba. at least kung merong matamaan at masira, may kapalit kaagad. i also suggest buying an extra dropout, just in case. hehehehe. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:08 pm

Makinig ka kay Apol, milkmaid model yan momaru!

Seryowsow na... tama si Apol, kunin mo ang gusto sa uan palang...walang built bike na makakakuha ng laro mo. Kung di mo kabisado hingi ka sensible advice dito.

Teka buuhin natin ang bike mo....


Kung kukuha ka ng frame, kailangan mo ng pork...mag rigid ka ba o mag suspension? Ano laro mo? Street, Street/Trials, Trials, DJ, STP(hello)?
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:23 am

patrick wrote:
Makinig ka kay Apol, milkmaid model yan momaru!

Seryowsow na... tama si Apol, kunin mo ang gusto sa uan palang...walang built bike na makakakuha ng laro mo. Kung di mo kabisado hingi ka sensible advice dito.

Teka buuhin natin ang bike mo....


Kung kukuha ka ng frame, kailangan mo ng pork...mag rigid ka ba o mag suspension? Ano laro mo? Street, Street/Trials, Trials, DJ, STP(hello)?

buin na yan!! hehehehe
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:14 pm

Hello guys! wow dami na post since last time ako nag visit. Bakasyon kc ako with my in-laws. Anyways, gusto ko na talaga bumuo ng bike kc pinag chachagaan ko ung xc ng erpat ko na barag barag na kaka practice ko...tinatanggal ko lng ung seat post hehehe. Like ive stated earlier sa post ko, I'm very new to this pero parang gusto kong riding style e ung street/trial, un bang makikita mo sa video ni lenosky (ayan o, ung kasama ni apol) at chase dun sa segment nila sa new world disorder 7. (ano ba kc ung DJ at STP? hehehe)...

baka mag suspension fork ako patrick. tapos...ummm...di ko na alam hehehe. help!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:59 pm

biketayo wrote:
Hello guys! wow dami na post since last time ako nag visit. Bakasyon kc ako with my in-laws. Anyways, gusto ko na talaga bumuo ng bike kc pinag chachagaan ko ung xc ng erpat ko na barag barag na kaka practice ko...tinatanggal ko lng ung seat post hehehe. Like ive stated earlier sa post ko, I'm very new to this pero parang gusto kong riding style e ung street/trial, un bang makikita mo sa video ni lenosky (ayan o, ung kasama ni apol) at chase dun sa segment nila sa new world disorder 7. (ano ba kc ung DJ at STP? hehehe)...

baka mag suspension fork ako patrick. tapos...ummm...di ko na alam hehehe. help!!!

yes 2 na tayo naka suspension fork kunsakali hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:17 pm

Question lng po ulit...bukod sa stp, ano pa maganda mountain bike frame na pang trials?
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:31 pm

Madami pa pre kaya lang di avail dito... kung gagamit ka ng xc frame, dj frame ay ok lang din hanapin mo ang dabomb na sputnik at mag rigid fork ka.

Sina Jay, Kamot3, Je-ar, Nikkocholo ay nagaaral sa XC/DJ frames. Ako, si Joolz, si Shoti ay example lang ng madaming nag simula sa non trials frame.

Pero isa lang masasabi ko, kung gusto mo mabilis na progression ay mag umpisa ka sa trials specific frame na walang saddle period. Dahil sa geo nun madamli mong makuha ang moves. Dahil walang saddle imbes mag munimuni ka ay mag eensayo ka.
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:28 pm

Pero patrick, di naman talaga pure trials lang gusto ko gawin..gusto ko din gamitin ung bike for trail & street kaya gusto ko sanang geometry ay yung similar sa STP. Para bang yung mga setup nila Chase, Lenosky at Leech.

Meron ako nakita frame sa internet, ung Fire Eye, parang similar din sya sa geometry ng STP e. Ok ba yun & meron ba nun dito? Gusto ko na talaga bumuo ng bike!
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:52 pm

Meron nun dito.. maganda din yun!

PM mo si dstreet. ask mo siya about sa fireeye.
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:25 pm

@biketayo

sir, chromoli ang fire eye. mabigat.Sad kung ako syo, kahit vision nalang.
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:03 pm

biketayo wrote:
Pero patrick, di naman talaga pure trials lang gusto ko gawin..gusto ko din gamitin ung bike for trail & street kaya gusto ko sanang geometry ay yung similar sa STP. Para bang yung mga setup nila Chase, Lenosky at Leech.

Meron ako nakita frame sa internet, ung Fire Eye, parang similar din sya sa geometry ng STP e. Ok ba yun & meron ba nun dito? Gusto ko na talaga bumuo ng bike!

Fire eye mabigat.

Bro just to destroy the myth. Si RL natuto using a rigid fork at si Jeff Lenosky ay higante hehe, yes you can learn using a suspension fork by all means also. No problem with that.

Pero bro yung times na naghahalo sina Lenosky at Leech ng Street/Trials was a confusing time for trials (sa US lang, not in the rest of the world). Ngayon bro its either you go street or trials. Uso yun nung mga early 2000, kasabay yung mga planetX na frames... jack of all trades, master of none a.k.a. Richard Gomez (no offense to the guy, yun lang ang "tawag" sa kanya nung iba nuong kabataan ko hehe add to the Dictionary please hehe).

RL is doing trials, not street-trials. The only difference sa kanya is more geared for beginners. "Grab your MTB and start trials" kinda thing. He dropped the street moves a long time ago, mainly to identify what he is doing as trials.

Let me explain further for fun ..

I think there are 3 schools of trials:

Comp
Vincent Hermance, Kenny & Wesley Beleay, Coustilier brothers, Thomas Ohler etc.

Street
Niel Tunnicliffe, Damon Watson - TGS guys (tap-gap-sidehop)

Others
TRA (hehe ma classify si TRA, di sya comp di sya street)
or Ryan Leech (si RL nagna-naturals din, so hindi din sya maclassify as "street-trials")

Search mo sila sa Youtube for starters

Hang with us sometime kahit naka MTB ka, naka road bike or playbike it doesn't matter. See us play and then sama ka sa street guys, panoorin mo sina Archie etc mag street then see what you feel ang type mo yun na.

If you choose Trials then pre you have to commit to have ika nga Practice, Patience & Persistence. Choose a bike that will not hinder your progress. Aim to progress, fun is already a given.
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:47 am

a big AMEN to that! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:22 am

i think, im just for the fun. hehe.Smile midlife crisis??? muhahahaha!
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:34 am

well, bawi ako...

pat is right. hehe.Smile

I'm into mtb, trail, not-so-downhill, not-so-dirty-jumps, and fun. but then, i think i want more. I want to learn how to play with my bike. not the other way around. which often happens to me. LOL!

so i got my 20" mod to get started. this bike is made to do those stuff, and so i'm hoping that it could help me with what i'm looking forward to. hehe. yet, i should find time to spend with it. practice and patience is the key.

now, hope to unlock the game. hehe. i wish biking is just a psp Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:08 pm

ako mag 24 na ako na pang street. nangangarap lang ako na magagawa ko mga bagay na gusto ko sa malaking bike. even with a great geom, malaki pa rin sa akin ang 26er for street. pwede namang playbike na lang e. at mas importante sa akin ngayon ang AM bike. gusto ko ng bike na ride anywhere any time without considerations. rather than a special bike for specific things.
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:43 pm

joes wrote:
ako mag 24 na ako na pang street. nangangarap lang ako na magagawa ko mga bagay na gusto ko sa malaking bike. even with a great geom, malaki pa rin sa akin ang 26er for street. pwede namang playbike na lang e. at mas importante sa akin ngayon ang AM bike. gusto ko ng bike na ride anywhere any time without considerations. rather than a special bike for specific things.

achoochoo! dami mo sinasabi nung nag24 set up ako. ngayon gusto mo 24 nman. dami kasi ako pambili. hmmmmp! che! waaaaaah! as i always say, maarte kasi ako. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:00 pm

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Hello mga riders! I'm very new to this sport and I need a little advice on which trial bike to get. I've heard good things about the Giant STP. Meron ba nun dito? Any suggestions?

@biketayo- ano nga ba height mo, meron akong available na STP yung large version. Black, semi used. 12k ko binbenta.
kung 5'6" pataas ka, ok sa iyo to, pero kung katulad kong below, regular size.
kung street/trials ang gusto mo, di ka magsisi sa STP. same rig na gamit ni lenosky sa street and trials. may mga binabago lang sya sa specs sa magkaibang discipline.

STP large: size 13 - top tube 23"- chainstay - 16"

STP regular: size 13 - top tube 22"- chainstay - 15.75"

sa Fire-eye naman, short fuse ang maganda, mababa sya, 13" din like the STP, tapos horizontal drop out kaya, if you want to go SS, walang problema. pwede mo ding paigsiin yung chainstay up to 16.5 or 15 even.
kaso, compare sa STRP, mabigat sya kasi steel. 4130 Chromoly. 13k ang price nya.

pero kung budget ka talaga, marerecommend ko yung Vison pursuit. 4k less sya. sa price range walang mas magandang available na frame. nung una, akala kko xc specific lang ang pursuit, sa subic (tlbf) nag nytride kami, nagulat ako sa pagiging playful ng bike.
i'm sure, sa tamang set up, pwedeng maging all rounder bike ang pursuit,

kung interesdo ka, contact me @ -0922-8441867 - Randal
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:40 pm

eto yung pix ng STP



let me know kung trip mo. meron ako, dalawa nyan
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PostSubject: Re: Which bike to get?   Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:16 pm

sir, pwede b dyan ang ordinary na rigid fork? o dapat may suspensyon ang fork?
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